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0. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Collection of Off-Sync songs? Reply with quote

The only ones I know are D2R, Burning Heat, and Hyper Eurobeat. Any others?

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1. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say Mineko Rock, Ska a go go, Pink Rose and Healing Vision(Angelic Mix). E19.gif
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2. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok... this is my view of songs that are "offbeat"...

I have been playing drums since i was 12 (i'm 18 this May 23rd), been in vocal choir since i was 14, bell choir since i was 15, sung in plays since Freshman year and have been playing DDR since December 2003. As you can see, music, beat and rhythem have been a major part of my life.

Now, whenever my brother plays ddr with me, he always complains that some ddr songs are offbeat. I'm sorry to everyone that disagrees with me, but i don't believe any song is offbeat at all. I notice how every note goes perfectly with each song (Yes, that includes Pink Rose). You may, like i said before, not agree with me, but try to listen to the song and the beats REALLY closely, and soon it will become evident that these beats do, in fact, go with the song. It takes time, but once you understand it, then you'll actually (believe it or not) pass songs better.
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3. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Ok... this is my view of songs that are "offbeat"...

I have been playing drums since i was 12 (i'm 18 this May 23rd), been in vocal choir since i was 14, bell choir since i was 15, sung in plays since Freshman year and have been playing DDR since December 2003. As you can see, music, beat and rhythem have been a major part of my life.

Now, whenever my brother plays ddr with me, he always complains that some ddr songs are offbeat. I'm sorry to everyone that disagrees with me, but i don't believe any song is offbeat at all. I notice how every note goes perfectly with each song (Yes, that includes Pink Rose). You may, like i said before, not agree with me, but try to listen to the song and the beats REALLY closely, and soon it will become evident that these beats do, in fact, go with the song. It takes time, but once you understand it, then you'll actually (believe it or not) pass songs better.


well ive only been in choir about 6 months... but any way i totally agree no songs are really off-beat...
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4. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Ok... this is my view of songs that are "offbeat"...

I have been playing drums since i was 12 (i'm 18 this May 23rd), been in vocal choir since i was 14, bell choir since i was 15, sung in plays since Freshman year and have been playing DDR since December 2003. As you can see, music, beat and rhythem have been a major part of my life.

Now, whenever my brother plays ddr with me, he always complains that some ddr songs are offbeat. I'm sorry to everyone that disagrees with me, but i don't believe any song is offbeat at all. I notice how every note goes perfectly with each song (Yes, that includes Pink Rose). You may, like i said before, not agree with me, but try to listen to the song and the beats REALLY closely, and soon it will become evident that these beats do, in fact, go with the song. It takes time, but once you understand it, then you'll actually (believe it or not) pass songs better.


well ive only been in choir about 6 months... but any way i totally agree no songs are really off-beat...


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5. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Ok... this is my view of songs that are "offbeat"...

I have been playing drums since i was 12 (i'm 18 this May 23rd), been in vocal choir since i was 14, bell choir since i was 15, sung in plays since Freshman year and have been playing DDR since December 2003. As you can see, music, beat and rhythem have been a major part of my life.

Now, whenever my brother plays ddr with me, he always complains that some ddr songs are offbeat. I'm sorry to everyone that disagrees with me, but i don't believe any song is offbeat at all. I notice how every note goes perfectly with each song (Yes, that includes Pink Rose). You may, like i said before, not agree with me, but try to listen to the song and the beats REALLY closely, and soon it will become evident that these beats do, in fact, go with the song. It takes time, but once you understand it, then you'll actually (believe it or not) pass songs better.


So that's why I've been getting better. And people say I'm crazy for burning cds primarily on DDR music. Well I showed them!!! E9.gif
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6. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Ok... this is my view of songs that are "offbeat"...

I have been playing drums since i was 12 (i'm 18 this May 23rd), been in vocal choir since i was 14, bell choir since i was 15, sung in plays since Freshman year and have been playing DDR since December 2003. As you can see, music, beat and rhythem have been a major part of my life.

Now, whenever my brother plays ddr with me, he always complains that some ddr songs are offbeat. I'm sorry to everyone that disagrees with me, but i don't believe any song is offbeat at all. I notice how every note goes perfectly with each song (Yes, that includes Pink Rose). You may, like i said before, not agree with me, but try to listen to the song and the beats REALLY closely, and soon it will become evident that these beats do, in fact, go with the song. It takes time, but once you understand it,then you'll actually (believe it or not) pass songs better.


Play D2R. (Not Stepmania, it may be synced). D2R on Max2 AND Extreme is offsync. Look at this thread.
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=104596

Cutriss wrote:
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yes this is only for extreme machines, as it is the most infamous song on the whole game for being out of sync
Actually, that's not true. It's out of sync on Max2, and to an even greater degree.


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7. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I respect your opinion and i understand your point of view, but i'm sorry that you have no musical background and can't seem to grasp songs that aren't simplisitcally composed of 4th and 8th only. If every person that said, "This song is off beat and so are the arrows", then they need to open up their mind and study the songs more. The arrows clearly fit into some aspect of the song...

Funny, too, it said in that thread that xenon was off beat... are you kidding me. If you clearly listen to the background music, it fits it perfectly. And Ordinary World? OMG.... you need to get your facts straight.... disgust.gif

Also, the reason why people say it's "out of sync" is because it's not going with the regular 4th beat rhythem. Most 12th note, 16th note and 32nd note in a song is there because it's mimicing something very significant and discrete in the background, which in turn, challenges the player to get into the true rhythem of a song... and every aspect of it...

...and i have played D2R... i have Extreme... it's perfectly fine...
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8. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
If every person that said, "This song is off beat and so are the arrows", then they need to open up their mind and study the songs more. The arrows clearly fit into some aspect of the song...

Funny, too, it said in that thread that xenon was off beat... are you kidding me. If you clearly listen to the background music, it fits it perfectly. And Ordinary World? OMG.... you need to get your facts straight.... disgust.gif

Also, the reason why people say it's "out of sync" is because it's not going with the regular 4th beat rhythem. Most 12th note, 16th note and 32nd note in a song is there because it's mimicing something very significant and discrete in the background, which in turn, challenges the player to get into the true rhythem of a song... and every aspect of it...

...and i have played D2R... i have Extreme... it's perfectly fine...


ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Ok. I respect your opinion and i understand your point of view, but i'm sorry that you have no musical background and can't seem to grasp songs that aren't simplisitcally composed of 4th and 8th only.

Mmk, first of all, I'm a percussionist in band.
Second, have you ever played KBMP? Have you gotten any AAs on it? That's just a little more than 4ths and 8ths. ;D
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Funny, too, it said in that thread that xenon was off beat... are you kidding me. If you clearly listen to the background music, it fits it perfectly. And Ordinary World? OMG


Um, wow. You're really, really, really unintelligent. Did I say Xenon was offbeat? Did I say Ordinary World was offbeat? No, and no.
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.... you need to get your facts straight.... disgust.gif

Um, sorry. You FAIL. . I never said any of that. But, as someone else said:
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9. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For god's sake man. You are just getting into fights with anything that can get you pissed or you can exploit. Go into his posts and make him look like a complete moron. I'll help you if you don't mind. E4.gif
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10. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My take on the whole off beat vs off sync debate;

Off Beat is another term for Syncopated. Example of normal rhythm, bold = "the beat" that you'd step in a DDR song:
One and Two and Three and Four.

Example off Off Beat or syncopated rhythm:

One and Two and Three and Four.

Electro Tuned (The Subs Mix) has plenty of examples of Syncopated steps, but the song is On-Sync.

Many DDR songs are Off-Sync, but not Off Beat, such as My Summer Love. This is where the arrows are slightly out of time with the rhythm of the song.

People need to learn the difference between these terms, as most people seem to think they are 2 terms for the same thing.
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11. PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmk, look. I'm going to save myself the warning points and say this: I don't want you to continue to argue, until you go play D2R on a Max2 machine.
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I've only played D2R on Euromix 2, and the sync seems fine. The main point I'm trying to make here is that the thread's title is wrong, unless you want songs that are off beat and/or off-sync. They are not the same thing.
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Pop'n Usagi! wrote:
My take on the whole off beat vs off sync debate;

Off Beat is another term for Syncopated. Example of normal rhythm, bold = "the beat" that you'd step in a DDR song:
One and Two and Three and Four.

Example off Off Beat or syncopated rhythm:

One and Two and Three and Four.

Electro Tuned (The Subs Mix) has plenty of examples of Syncopated steps, but the song is On-Sync.

Many DDR songs are Off-Sync, but not Off Beat, such as My Summer Love. This is where the arrows are slightly out of time with the rhythm of the song.

People need to learn the difference between these terms, as most people seem to think they are 2 terms for the same thing.

After reading this, I was about to dismiss the argument as a misunderstanding, until I read this.

ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Also, the reason why people say it's "out of sync" is because it's not going with the regular 4th beat rhythem. Most 12th note, 16th note and 32nd note in a song is there because it's mimicing something very significant and discrete in the background, which in turn, challenges the player to get into the true rhythem of a song... and every aspect of it...

Quite clearly, he means it is not off-sync. Which it is.


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Songs that "don't go with the regular Quarter/8th note patterns are syncopated/off beat. Unless there's a problem with the timing off the arrows, they are not off or out of sync.
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ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
If every person that said, "This song is off beat and so are the arrows", then they need to open up their mind and study the songs more. The arrows clearly fit into some aspect of the song...

Funny, too, it said in that thread that xenon was off beat... are you kidding me. If you clearly listen to the background music, it fits it perfectly. And Ordinary World? OMG.... you need to get your facts straight.... disgust.gif

Also, the reason why people say it's "out of sync" is because it's not going with the regular 4th beat rhythem. Most 12th note, 16th note and 32nd note in a song is there because it's mimicing something very significant and discrete in the background, which in turn, challenges the player to get into the true rhythem of a song... and every aspect of it...

...and i have played D2R... i have Extreme... it's perfectly fine...


ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Ok. I respect your opinion and i understand your point of view, but i'm sorry that you have no musical background and can't seem to grasp songs that aren't simplisitcally composed of 4th and 8th only.

Mmk, first of all, I'm a percussionist in band.
Second, have you ever played KBMP? Have you gotten any AAs on it? That's just a little more than 4ths and 8ths. ;D
ParanoiaBrother3 wrote:
Funny, too, it said in that thread that xenon was off beat... are you kidding me. If you clearly listen to the background music, it fits it perfectly. And Ordinary World? OMG


Um, wow. You're really, really, really unintelligent. Did I say Xenon was offbeat? Did I say Ordinary World was offbeat? No, and no.
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.... you need to get your facts straight.... disgust.gif

Um, sorry. You FAIL. . I never said any of that. But, as someone else said:
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I NEVER said that you said that comment about Xenon and Ordinary World... i SAID right there in plain english that the THREAD said (you know... the one that you gave me with the direct link... this is the second time that you haven't read what i wrote. This is the reason why i get an attitude with people, because they don't read what i wrote. This, irronically, goes well with my college psychology class and how you're reacting. You're taking outside stimuli, adding your personal heredity and/or experiences and emotions and making a conclusion based on what data you percieve.

I don't purposly get into fights. People make fights with me because of clashing of opinions. I just correct people and point out the obvious clearly. Some people just don't like constructive critisizm and take it offensively. E7.gif
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