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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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Although it's not quite finished yet... I decided to post photos of it...

Still needs the metal around the edges, and the supports for the rear metal panels... but, it's playable...

Who says ITG 3 never came out E13.gif







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biggest NDS ever
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Sweet JESUS that is HOT.

How long did that take, and how much did it cost, and THAT IS SO DAMN AWESOME!
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8ftmetalhead wrote:
Sweet JESUS that is HOT.

How long did that take, and how much did it cost, and THAT IS SO DAMN AWESOME!


It took me about 8 months from the start of building until now... However, part of that process was building part of it, ordering a few of the parts I need... see how they fit together... figuring out some more stuff... ordering a few more... etc...

For example, it took me about a month for the steel place to get me the steel... (14 gauge stainless) They laser cut it and bent it all for me, however there were some... issues heh...

Took forever to find someplace to do the bars for me how I wanted em...

As for how much it cost... don't ask... *laughs* My guess is around 5K CDN right now... However, there were a few things I didn't need to put in there, or do the way I did, that would have made it cheaper. (Don't need 2 Sony 1200 Max Watt Subs, and 2 300 Watt amps for example E13.gif Or all the LED lights, or the special backlit material for the arrows (which by looking at it, I think is the same stuff they use on the actual DDR arrows.) However, mine have a special 'mask' layer... so the grey border, and the metal of the arrow doesn't light up... but the colour does. (you can see it really well in the picture of the blue arrow). But yeah, it wasn't cheap... However, I enjoy projects like this. So, it's as much fun to play as it was to build...

as for the "THAT IS SO DAMN AWESOME!"
Thanks Bro =[D}

I plan on making a website, so that people can find out how I did things to assist them in building their pads... May be awhile though before that's up... we'll see.
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That is a sweet home setup. At that price, I'd argue it's better just to buy a used arcade machine, but I understand the love to build and have a "hobby" project. Awesome rig. I'd be very interested in a how-to for those pads. They're definitely the best looking home built pads I've ever seen.
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Suko wrote:
That is a sweet home setup. At that price, I'd argue it's better just to buy a used arcade machine, but I understand the love to build and have a "hobby" project. Awesome rig. I'd be very interested in a how-to for those pads.


Well, my logic was this...

Let's go with a used machine... You're looking at anywhere between 3-6K (for a decent one) I've seen namco crap-o-cabs go for 1K but they're... well... crap. However, some people have lucked out and gotten an ITG / DDR machine for crazy cheap.

But anywho... 3-6K...

You buy a used cabinet...

Who knows the state of the sensors... all new sensors are 600 bucks.
If the screen isn't that good, a good new one is around 350-900 (depending on how good of screen you want).
If you want it to look nice... and get an all new set of decals, you're looking at a few hundred bucks.

And then, well... if it's a DDR machine... you'd prolly gut it and put in a computer with OpenITG or Stepmania... (so add boards for lights, controls, etc)

So, right there you're looking to put in at least a grand to get it to a nice condition...

Also, you're not getting...

1) Full 720P HD screen (I have a large set of HD BG movies on there)
2) 2 1200 Watt Sony Subs, Dual 300 Watt RMS Amps and Sony Speaker system (Way better than any arcade system)
3) Full working USB slots (Would need to add if DDR Machine)
4) Custom Graphics... (Can't find a machine like this, and it would cost just as much if you were converting an old machine to a new look)
5) All LED lighting system... (minus the subs)

So, eh... at 5K cdn... (so... 4-4.5K US... depending on where the rate has been... and don't forget shipping...) Really, the only difference is I had to put a lot more effort into building the cabinet, than it would have been to buy one. (However, depending on the condition of the cabinet, who knows how much it could need)

My logic was... I wanted something that I knew would work... Buying a used machine, is a gamble. I didn't want to buy a machine, and then have to put a ton of more money into it...

Also, one of the nice perks is... I built it, so if anything goes wrong... I know how to fix it.

But yeah, for MOST people... I wouldn't suggest building something like this... It's not cheap, and it's not easy... However, it looks d*** cool.

Suko wrote:
They're definitely the best looking home built pads I've ever seen.


Thanks Suko
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@goatee_guy wow.. really good work. i'd like to see more of the cabinet and inside the arrow panels.

looking forward to seeing that site you mentioned.

to nitpick, i think the buttons could be more at an angle. the overall size of the cab looks pretty beastly. the screws look pretty rough and the bars could be wider.. not to complain though still a really cool machine.
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@goatee_guy: Wow! Phenomenal job with this.

I, too, am very much looking forward to seeing that site. E1.gif
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dasbacon wrote:
to nitpick, i think the buttons could be more at an angle. the overall size of the cab looks pretty beastly. the screws look pretty rough and the bars could be wider.. not to complain though still a really cool machine.


Thanks for the input...

Um, the buttons being at more of an angle? I'm guessing you're referring to the start/cancel left/right buttons?

They could have been, although it wouldn't have been the look I wanted... However, before I built it, I figure out what the right height was for my hands *laughs* (no one elses is important E13.gif And using the buttons seems comfortable... at least, no different from an actual machine.

As for the cabinet size... It's actually several inches smaller front to back (about 3) and 1 inch shorter than an actual ITG 2 Dedicab. It is a few inches wider... however... going from a regular screen to widescreen can do that... So really, it's the same size as an arcade cab. However, generally you don't see ITG 2 cabinet photos in someone's small basement room, with a low ceiling... If you seen it in an arcade, it would look 'normal' sized.

Is it a bit big for a house... *laughs*, some people would say so... However, part of my goal was to make what I thought could be an actual ITG 3 arcade machine. So that's why it's not just a TV with buttons.

Yeah, the screws are pretty rough... However I got em for cheap and I'm looking for the kind they use in the ITG machines... I found a few places, but they want me to order them in like... boxes of 1000. Uh, how about no. So, those will be replaced when I find the right ones...

As for the bars being wider... They're the exact same width as an actual cabinet... they just don't flare out like some cabinets do. (So, would be like playing on a DDR cabinet.... and maybe an ITG1 cabinet? I haven't seen one of those in ages... so I can't remember if they do the flare out thing or not...)


Oh, and as for inside the arrow panels... Honestly... Look inside an arcade cabinet... I pretty much copied the design... uses arcade sensors... and the arcade sensor holders (from mymybox) and I just cut my own triangle brackets to attach the triangle brackets into...

I'll put some pics on the site once it's up though.
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goatee_guy wrote:
Thanks for the input...

imo with the buttons angled it doesn't force your wrist to be tweaked so much in order to press the buttons. (extreme nit picking ;p)

an FX cabinet is a good example of a cabinet with a widescreen monitor isn't forced to be larger because of the monitor. (not that i love the FX design particularly though) i think the reason why the cabinet looks large is the space around the monitor.

its really annoying how those screws are so hard to find.. i don't understand why they are so rare.

the bars on pump/itgdedis are a lot wider than they are on ddr which i think is a lot more comfortable on my shoulder blades especially. also there was never an itg1 dedicated cabinet.

since the rest of the machine looks really well crafted it would just be interesting to also see the craftsmanship of inside the panels.
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Unfortunately, I didn't have an idea what TV I would be putting in there until later along in the project... so I wanted to have more than enough room... (too much is better than not enough) So, that's why I left the space...

Also, I built the lights into the header panel... (where as on say an ITG / DDR machine, they 'jet out' of the header) So, on an actual cabinet, the header is wider than the screen portion... for my design it had to be the same...

Looking back, if I had all the 'pieces' ahead of time... I prolly could have made it a bit smaller... However, I bought things as I had the money for em... seen how they fit together... assembled what I could, then when I had more money, bought the next pieces... Which, doing it that way doesn't lead to the most compact way of doing it possible.

As for the bars *shrugs*, I only use them to pull myself up sometimes when I'm doing freestyle or songs with crazy hands... Otherwise I don't even touch the bars when I play.
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goatee_guy wrote:
Looking back, if I had all the 'pieces' ahead of time... I prolly could have made it a bit smaller... However, I bought things as I had the money for em... seen how they fit together... assembled what I could, then when I had more money, bought the next pieces... Which, doing it that way doesn't lead to the most compact way of doing it possible.

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goatee_guy, you should totally hit me up on AIM.

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I've got some stuff for ya E10.gif.
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mmmm stuff... I like stuff...
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that is one of the most impressive things ive ever seen.

is there ANY way you could get a video of it?
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-dark-xuxa wrote:
that is one of the most impressive things ive ever seen.

is there ANY way you could get a video of it?


Thanks Bro,

and no, physically impossible... can't get a video...
kidding E13.gif

I'm just waiting until I actually finish everything up... (If you look at the one pic the metal panels by the bars aren't even) that's because they're just set on... as well there are other little things that still need to be finished. So before I put a video up for the world to see... I'd like to get it all lookin' good.
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THAT SH*T IS HYPE YO!

Now you can Falcon PAUWNCH the crap out of any song!
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So I haven't read through the thread, so this may have been done, but has anyone tried wiring a homemade pad to a 15-pin D-sub connector? That way, one could just buy a Cobalt Flux control box and use that on the homemade pad, and not have to solder to a controller. I plan to try this if I ever do build my own pad.

Sorry for bumping.

EDIT: Oh, and on the matrix sensor, how does the top mending brace stay on? Glue? Double-sided tape?
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Hey kids, didn't realize the photos of my machine went offline...

http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8973313#8973313

So the photos on that post are good to go again.
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thiencao wrote:
This forum is so slow it's unbearable. If someone knows of an alternative site with pads information please PM me it. This is driving me nuts just trying to look for information.

I am interested in building a Pump It Up pad but I don't have any dimensions to work from. Also I am highly interested in using the "Matrix" style sensors with the mending thingies with mousepad pieces(?). I"ve tried googling for information but no one goes into details on how to make it work or the explaining the process. I really like the Stealth pad but it looks difficult with the drilling and bore depths. So if you're a pro plz PM me the information on how to go on about it.

Someone should make a website for DIY DDR/ITG/PIU Pad strictly. Post various builds there and discuss it.


Tell me about it. I'm looking all over for details to build my pad as well, and haven't been able to find anything yet.

I'm building 4 panel, but I'll definitely let you know if I come across dimensions for a 5 panel. You have AIM? E1.gif
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